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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 05-03-2017, 09:21 PM Thread Starter
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653 miles, first maintenance

So, finished a ride today with 653 miles on the Z, so drained the oil, whilst performing all other maintenance listed. Installed the new filter, added 1 3/4 quarts of oil for starters to check level. Started it up, let it run a few, waited for the oil level to appear in window, never did. Emptied the 2nd quart bottle in, barely visible at bottom of window. Specs say it takes 1.9 qts with filter change, or 1.8 litre. Has anyone else noticed this? Or have you just filled it until it appears in window? Which is what I am doing, but that means the owners manual and s/m is incorrect. I'm kinda anal about these sorts of things. The service manual says 2.4 qts only when doing an overhaul with dry engine.
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If you had the bike on a rear wheel stand, and not a front, you probably emptied the gearbox reservoir. I haven't looked too close at the Kawasaki yet, but the Yamaha shares fluid between the two. If you raise the rear, it empties both. That would be your extra half quart. I usually just let it drain, then fill it back to mid point in the sightglass.

Oh yeah... did you see any abnormal amount of flakes or shavings on the first change?

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Checked the oil for metal, using a magnet and clean drain pan, nothing to speak of.
Did not use the rear stand. I have a wheel dock stand that holds bike upright and level, on a level garage floor. Went for a 150 mile ride today, after resting for 2 hours, level is fine between the lines, ended up filling with 2.05 liters exact.
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That's a pretty significant difference between what the manual states and what it actually takes.. this is something people should be taking note of.
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Especially as I let oil drain a couple hours to get it all out, and engine cools down, on side stand. Straighten bike up on my wheeldock and remove oil filter to drain the bit from there. I add oil to the new filter and let it soak it up before installing it to a cool engine. I have enough experience to know not to check level on a rear stand. Actual amount added was pre-measured in a graduated cc beaker, for my own satisfaction.
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Glad to hear there wasn't any level of metal found of concern, too bad more owners don't follow through on the same process otherwise we'd have a good sample size to go off of. But so far Kawi's seem to be solid.
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Especially as I let oil drain a couple hours to get it all out, and engine cools down, on side stand. Straighten bike up on my wheeldock and remove oil filter to drain the bit from there. I add oil to the new filter and let it soak it up before installing it to a cool engine. I have enough experience to know not to check level on a rear stand. Actual amount added was pre-measured in a graduated cc beaker, for my own satisfaction.
Now that is definitely a very precise and thorough way of doing an oil change and I like it!

But speaking of metal concerns or anything, has anyone ever sent oil out to that lab to get it checked?
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I have sent in samples to Blackstone labs for 2 of my previous Prii, but forgot about it with the Z. Maybe next change. Costs $25.00, and nothing was ever reported negative, so I figure use good oil and change as needed, and save $25. Modern oils and excellent engines now days eliminate worries.
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That is true. Once you're diligent with it and keep on top of maintenance, you'll be good. Which oil do you use?
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I've been using Lucas Synthetic Motorcycle oils for years. Started in the '90' after being around some funny car drag racers.
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